The New York Times’ Ezra Klein joins MSNBC’s Ari Melber for an extended conversation on the Trump-Musk agenda, Biden’s legacy, the role of media and the internet in shaping politics, and Klein’s new book “Abundance.” Parts of this extended interview aired on MSNBC. (The Beat’s YouTube playlist: https://msnbc.com/ari Beat merch: www.msnbc.com/Beat5 )